
The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg Commerce, Not Conquest | Interview: William Easterly
Nov 26, 2025
William Easterly, an economist and professor emeritus, discusses free trade and USAID’s impact on development. He challenges the notion of benevolent despots, asserting that true progress hinges on consent and human agency. The conversation delves into how colonial narratives justified violence, critiques aid's distortion of local markets, and laments the left's overshadowing of classical liberalism's anti-colonial arguments. Easterly also weighs in on China's economic reforms and their uncertain political implications, highlighting the allure of strongmen in development.
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Consent Defines Real Progress
- William Easterly argues material progress alone doesn't justify violent or coercive rule without consent.
- Progress must be judged by the choices and consent of intended beneficiaries, not just GDP gains.
Resistance Reveals False Benevolence
- Easterly and classical liberals use resistance as evidence against claimed benevolence.
- If supposed beneficiaries resist, that undermines the claim that coercive rule is 'progress.'
Winthrop's 'Material Salvation' Example
- William Easterly reads John Winthrop claiming colonists would "improve" Indians' land to justify taking it.
- He notes Pequots fiercely resisted and were massacred despite promised material benefits.








