Forget the headlines predicting a “workerless workforce.” In this episode, host Bill Banham sits down with longtime cloud and SaaS analyst Phil Wainwright to cut through the hype and examine what AI agents really mean for HR, business leaders, and the people doing the work.

Phil argues that automation can be transformative—but calling software a “workforce” conceals the real challenges organisations face: governance, transparency, accountability, and change management. Together, we explore where AI agents will take hold first—help desks, admin-heavy workflows, repetitive processes—and why this shift places HR in a more strategic, cross-functional role.

Listeners will get practical guidance on:

How to encode policy, ethics, and organisational values into systems so AI operates safely
Specific risks in AI-driven recruiting and performance processes, from hidden bias to opaque decision paths
The documentation, access rules, and audit trails needed to build trust
How skills-based talent frameworks are reshaping hiring, development, and mobility
Why adaptability, empathy, creativity, and problem solving are emerging as the defining skills of modern work

We also dig into early-career disruption, the evolution of knowledge work, and the rise of modular teams blending AI, contractors, and full-time staff—without dumping everyone into the gig economy.

If you’re leading HR or building teams, this episode offers a grounded roadmap for responsible AI adoption and resilient workforce design.

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