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Outward: How Can Queer People Keep Each Other Safe?

Dec 21, 2022
01:32:01

This month, hosts Christina Cauterucci, Jules Gill-Peterson, and Bryan Lowder reflect on the painful impact of anti-LGBTQ violence and dig into the new possibilities for trans storytelling and filmmaking. First, they talk through their complicated feelings about one of the responses to the shooting at Club Q in Colorado Springs last month: Should queer people be organizing in self-defense, or even arming ourselves for protection? Then they are joined by actress Jen Richards who portrays Barbara in Framing Agnes, a new documentary, directed by Chase Joynt, which is centered on six trans people who were interviewed and treated at a UCLA gender clinic in the 1950s. The film combines reenactments of those interviews with contemporary conversations with trans actors reflecting on how the lives of the people they portray resonate with their own lives. Our own Jules Gill-Peterson has a central role in the movie as a historian and narrator.

Items discussed in the show:


Gay Agenda

Christina: shopping gay, including at The Little Gay Shop and Adam’s Nest

Jules: “Not a Transition: On Andrea Pallaoro’s Monica,” by Eva Pensis in the Los Angeles Review of Books

Bryan has created a bespoke cocktail for Outward listeners: the Cuddle Puddle


The Cuddle Puddle

2 oz rye

1 oz ginger liqueur

½ oz Fernet Branca or similar

Dash of orange bitters

Stir the ingredients for a long time over ice, then strain into a cocktail glass. Garnish with orange peel.


This podcast was produced by June Thomas.


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