Pod Force One Sean Duffy spills on Plane Crashes, "Racist" Roads, Moon Bases & Epic Musk Clash
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Aug 13, 2025 
Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, a former U.S. Representative for Wisconsin and NASA's head, shares fascinating insights on airline safety and the need for modern air traffic management. He tackles the absurd notion of 'racist roads' and advocates for a U.S. moon base to boost space exploration. Duffy recounts his clash with Elon Musk, revealing the challenges in balancing advocacy and innovation. The conversation also touches on the pressures faced by air traffic controllers and the vital importance of leadership in overcoming crises.
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DCA Crash Revealed Airspace Blind Spots
- The DCA helicopter-plane collision exposed longstanding airspace vulnerabilities around Washington, D.C.
- Sean Duffy ordered restricted airspace and broader reviews to prevent repeat near-misses.
Modernize Air Traffic Control Now
- Modernize air traffic control infrastructure and software to handle growing complexity and new vehicles.
- Fund a common automation platform and upgrades over the next few years to improve safety and capacity.
ATC Runs On Antiquated Tech
- Much of ATC relies on decades-old hardware and software, including telecom on copper and Windows-95-era systems.
- Replacing fiber, radar, and legacy software is essential to safely integrate drones and eVTOLs into crowded skies.