Funny, honest, and a real Lazy Genius, Mary and Kendra have a conversation about kids, goals, marriage, and everything in between. Sometimes it's hard to be a person, and Mary gets that. She also makes you feel okay for not liking it all the time.

Where to find Mary:

Mary's blog: Giving Up on Perfect Mary's Instagram: @marycarver Mary's Facebook: /givinguponperfect Mary's book: Choose Joy

This podcast is hosted by Kendra Adachi and executive produced by Kendra Adachi, Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey.

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#4: Giving Up On Perfect with Mary Carver