Jacobus Geluk, CEO of agnos.ai and a leading figure in GraphAI, shares his expertise rooted in over 20 years in data management. He discusses the urgent need for standards in the data-product marketplace, emphasizing the DPROD specification he developed. Geluk illustrates how 'use-case trees' bridge the gap between technical capabilities and business needs, enhancing LLM-driven architectures. He highlights issues of compliance and governance for AI agents while advocating for a strong connection between knowledge graphs and emerging AI technologies.
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DPROD Standard Development
Jacobus Geluk and Tony Seal created the DPROD standard, a data product ontology.
Several banks and financial institutions like JP Morgan and UBS are already using DPROD.
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Data Economy and Demand
Data marketplaces represent a data economy with supply and demand sides.
Current standards define the supply (data products), but the demand side (use cases) lacks definition.
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Bridging Business-IT Gap
Directly mapping business needs to IT development ensures alignment.
This solves the disconnect between initial requests and final deliverables.
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Jacobus Geluk
The arrival of AI agents creates urgency around the need to guide and govern them.
Drawing on his 15-year history in building reliable AI solutions for banks and other enterprises, Jacobus Geluk sees a standards-based data-product marketplace as the key to creating the thriving data economy that will enable AI agents to succeed at scale.
Jacobus launched the effort to create the DPROD data-product description specification, creating the supply side of the data market. He's now forming a working group to document the demand side, a "use-case tree" specification to articulate the business needs that data products address.
We talked about:
his work as CEO at Agnos.ai, an enterprise knowledge graph and AI consultancy
the working group he founded in 2023 which resulted in the DPROD specification to describe data products
an overview of the data-product marketplace and the data economy
the need to account for the demand side of the data marketplace
the intent of his current work on to address the disconnect between tech activities and business use cases
how the capabilities of LLMs and knowledge graphs complement each other
the origins of his "use-case tree" model in a huge banking enterprise knowledge graph he built ten years ago
how use case trees improve LLM-driven multi-agent architectures
some examples of the persona-driven, tech-agnostic solutions in agent architectures that use-case trees support
the importance of constraining LLM action with a control layer that governs agent activities, accounting for security, data sourcing, and issues like data lineage and provenance
the new Use Case Tree Work Group he is forming
the paradox in the semantic technology industry now of a lack of standards in a field with its roots in W3C standards
Jacobus' bio
Jacobus Geluk is a Dutch Semantic Technology Architect and CEO of agnos.ai, a UK-based consulting firm with a global team of experts specializing in GraphAI — the combination of Enterprise Knowledge Graphs (EKG) with Generative AI (GenAI). Jacobus has over 20 years of experience in data management and semantic technologies, previously serving as a Senior Data Architect at Bloomberg and Fellow Architect at BNY Mellon, where he led the first large-scale production EKG in the financial industry.
As a founding member and current co-chair of the Enterprise Knowledge Graph Forum (EKGF), Jacobus initiated the Data Product Workgroup, which developed the Data Product Ontology (DPROD) — a proposed OMG standard for consistent data product management across platforms. Jacobus can claim to have coined the term "Enterprise Knowledge Graph (EKG)" more than 10 years ago, and his work has been instrumental in advancing semantic technologies in financial services and other information-intensive industries.
Connect with Jacobus online
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Agnos.ai
Resources mentioned in this podcast
DPROD specification
Enterprise Knowledge Graph Forum
Object Management Group
Use Case Tree Method for Business Capabilities
DCAT Data Catalog Vocabulary
Video
Here’s the video version of our conversation:
https://youtu.be/J0JXkvizxGo
Podcast intro transcript
This is the Knowledge Graph Insights podcast, episode number 26. In an AI landscape that will soon include huge groups of independent software agents acting on behalf of humans, we'll need solid mechanisms to guide the actions of those agents. Jacobus Geluk looks at this situation from the perspective of the data economy, specifically the data-products marketplace. He helped develop the DPROD specification that describes data products and is now focused on developing use-case trees that describe the business needs that they address.
Interview transcript
Larry:
Okay. Hi everyone. Welcome to episode number 26 of the Knowledge Graph Insights podcast. I am really happy today to welcome to the show, Jacobus Geluk. Sorry, I try to speak Dutch, do my best.