Gaudiumetspes22 podcast Samuel Korb discusses with Larry Chapp the concept of intratrinitarian kenosis in Origen: The Communio Interviews
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May 13, 2025 Samuel Korb, a doctoral student in theology at the University of Notre Dame, dives into the intriguing concept of intratrinitarian kenosis as discussed by Origen. The conversation explores Origen's profound impact on early Christian thought, especially regarding the dynamics of the Trinity and Christ's incarnation. Korb examines how divine immutability in modern Trinitarian theology contrasts with ancient beliefs and the critiques from Thomistic thought. This engaging dialogue provides valuable insights into the complexities of divine love and historical theological developments.
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Intra-Trinitarian Kenosis Explained
- Intra-Trinitarian kenosis asks if the Son's incarnation self-emptying reflects God's inner Trinitarian life.
- Balthazar and modern theologians connect this kenosis to the Father's eternal generation of the Son, anticipating incarnation.
Origen's Diffusion Not Loss
- Origen interprets kenosis not as loss but as diffusion, like ointment spreading fragrance.
- This means the Son's generation by the Father expresses fullness rather than depletion, paralleling the incarnation.
Kenosis as Condition Alteration
- For Origen, the Son's nature remains unchanged in incarnation, but his condition undergoes renewal to assume humanity.
- Kenosis involves real limitation and alteration, but no natural change in the divine Son.