Richard Hanania, author of "The Origins of Woke," discusses how he played a key role in dismantling Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) policies, influenced by online right-wing ideologies. Andrew Prokop, a Vox senior correspondent, joins to analyze the impact of internet culture on the Trump administration's policies. They explore the shift in political discourse post-2020 election and the alliance against progressive values. Reflecting on DEI's implications, they highlight both personal evolution and the future of these contentious concepts in political debates.
The Trump administration's revocation of affirmative action rules marks a significant policy shift prioritizing individual merit over diversity considerations.
A rise of online right-wing figures indicates a blending of social media influence and political action, challenging traditional cultural narratives.
Deep dives
The End of Affirmative Action Policies
The Trump administration's decision to revoke affirmative action rules, which required federal contractors to promote diversity and inclusion, marked a significant shift in government policy that had been in place since 1965. This reversal is seen as part of a broader movement against what is perceived as progressive dominance and the imposition of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) policies in various sectors. The changes reflect a desire among some officials to prioritize individual merit over race or gender considerations in hiring practices, believing that prior policies may have enforced unnecessary biases. The administration's approach suggests alignment with certain online commentators who argue that such regulations infringe on personal and corporate freedoms, and this has sparked significant debate about the future of civil rights legislation in America.
Influence of Online Commentary on Policy
The rise of a 'very online' political cohort, including figures like Elon Musk and J.D. Vance, signals a shift in the relationship between social media and government policy-making. This group leverages platforms like Twitter to shape narratives and spur action on issues they view as emblematic of a cultural war against 'wokeness.' Their agenda reflects a fusion of online activism and political power, as exemplified by the fallout surrounding contentious issues like the release of the Epstein files, which was expected to unveil significant revelations but ultimately resulted in embarrassment. This phenomenon illustrates how rapidly evolving social media landscapes can influence mainstream political agendas and priorities.
Resentment Toward Progressive Culture
A prominent theme within the conversation is the shared resentment among the online right toward what they perceive as a progressive cultural hegemony that silences dissenting viewpoints, particularly around race and identity issues. Many individuals in this community express a longing for a time when controversial opinions could be voiced without fear of backlash or cancellation. The emergence of figureheads who openly support or defend racially insensitive commentary indicates a shift in cultural tolerance from institutional norms that typically discourage such expressions. This cultural pivot raises important questions about the implications for societal discourse and the nature of public accountability in fostering an inclusive environment.
Policy in the second Trump administration is being driven by a small group of thinkers from the online right. We talk to one of them about how he got DEI dismantled.
This episode was produced by Miles Bryan with help from Carla Javier, edited by Amina Al-Sadi, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Andrea Kristinsdottir and Patrick Boyd, and hosted by Noel King.