Mary-Payne Gilbert, host of Pink Shade podcast, joins Kate to discuss The Curious Case of Natalia Grace: Natalia Speaks. The docuseries offers exclusive access to Natalia Grace Barnett as she shares her story and confronts her former adoptive parents Michael and Kristine Barnett’s accusations head on. Over the course of six parts, Natalia Speaks retraces her adoption saga and the Barnett’s allegations from Natalia’s perspective, offering insight into what really went on behind closed doors in the Barnett’s home and how much truth there actually is to their claim Natalia was not a 6-year-old Ukrainian orphan with a rare genetic disorder, but rather a homicidal adult intent on harming them and their children.

They also discuss this season of Southern Charm on Bravo.

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