To Catch a Thief: China’s Rise to Cyber Supremacy

Ep 3: The Most Dangerous Time in American History

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Mar 24, 2025
Jim Lewis, a leading expert on Chinese cyber espionage, shares his insights on alarming hacking tactics targeting American businesses, including airlines and startups. He discusses a striking incident involving a Wisconsin welding shop turned staging ground for cyberattacks. Lewis elaborates on the implications of intellectual property theft and the complex history of China's economic transformation from Mao to Deng. He also highlights the emotional and financial toll of espionage, offering chilling examples of companies affected by these aggressive tactics.
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ANECDOTE

The Cate Server

  • Chinese hackers used a server in Cate Machine and Welding, a small Wisconsin shop, to attack US businesses.
  • The hackers targeted airlines, startups, law firms, and research labs, stealing intellectual property.
INSIGHT

NSA Blind Spot

  • While Americans were concerned about NSA surveillance, Chinese hackers exploited this blind spot.
  • The Cate server, and others like it, were ideal for China because the NSA couldn't legally access them.
INSIGHT

Beyond Espionage

  • Chinese hacking extended beyond typical espionage targets to commercial entities.
  • They targeted any company possessing valuable IP, regardless of industry, to support China's growth.
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