Gem of a friend Nikki Levy is here to chat with Matt and Dave about her new audible show Owning It, going to the same fertility center as Lance Bass, the benefits of recording from home, getting out in the new world, Mare of Easttown, Veneno, Casey Wilson's Wreckage of My Presence, co-dependent moms, Nikki's embryo transfer, Matt and Dave's stance on kids, morning pages and The Artist Way, pandemic married life, how Nikki met her wife, being a creative versus being an executive and the right to change your mind.