160: Managing the Largest Public Pension Fund in the U.S. - With CalPERS CEO, Marcie Frost
Nov 28, 2024
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Marcie Frost, CEO of CalPERS, leads America’s largest public pension fund, managing over $500 billion in assets. She shares her inspiring journey in public service, emphasizing mentorship and networking. The conversation dives into asset allocation strategies and the balance between sustainability and returns. Marcie discusses the fund's increasing focus on infrastructure investments and the challenges of public scrutiny. She offers valuable advice for women in finance, highlighting the importance of organizational culture and effective leadership.
Marcie Frost highlights the importance of mentorship and diverse pathways in career advancement, particularly emphasizing support for women in finance.
CalPERS faces challenges with unfunded liabilities exceeding $180 billion, necessitating strategic funding solutions and dynamic investment strategies for long-term stability.
The organization integrates ESG considerations into its investment practices, focusing on sustainable investments to address climate risks while meeting fiduciary responsibilities.
Deep dives
Legacy of CalPERS
The California Public Employees Retirement System (CalPERS) has evolved significantly since its establishment in response to the Great Depression, now managing over $465 billion in assets and serving more than 2.3 million members. The system bridges pension benefits and healthcare coverage, making it a major player in the public sector's financial infrastructure. Given its extensive stakeholder engagement, the organization remains committed to supporting worker rights and providing retirement security for public employees. Understanding its dual mission is vital, as CalPERS balances the demands of pension management with substantial healthcare initiatives.
Career Path and Skills Development
Marcy Frost's personal journey emphasizes resilience and the importance of mentorship in career development, particularly for women in finance. Despite not having a formal degree, she rose through the ranks by leveraging her work ethic, seeking feedback, and building a robust professional network. Her approach highlights the significance of experience, determination, and creating a supportive environment where individuals can succeed based on diverse skill sets. Frost advocates for equal recognition of technical skills alongside traditional academic accomplishments, fostering an inclusive culture that values various pathways to success.
Challenges in Investment Strategy
CalPERS faces significant challenges regarding its unfunded liabilities, which currently exceed $180 billion, necessitating a strategic focus on long-term funding solutions. Recent reforms, including a new pension tier, aim to secure better financial outcomes for future members while considering evolving economic conditions. The organization also conducts regular asset-liability reviews to adjust investment strategies dynamically, with a goal of increasing financial stability. Maintaining transparency and communication with stakeholders is crucial as they seek to align investment outcomes with members' expectations and needs.
Sustainable Investment and ESG Focus
CalPERS integrates Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) considerations into its investment strategies, recognizing their long-term impacts on financial health. The organization embraces sustainable investing as integral to risk management and value preservation in an ever-evolving economic landscape. Frost emphasizes that divestment is not the primary option; instead, CalPERS invests in companies committed to transitioning towards sustainable practices. This balanced approach seeks to drive performance while addressing climate risks, aligning with their fiduciary responsibility to optimize member benefits over decades.
Culture and Leadership at CalPERS
Fostering a collaborative and innovative culture is a central focus for Marcy Frost as she leads CalPERS. She champions the idea that leaders should empower their teams to express ideas and take calculated risks, promoting an environment where failure is seen as a learning opportunity. By encouraging open dialogues and actively involving team members in problem-solving, CalPERS aims to maintain agility amidst its size as a public institution. This commitment to strong leadership and employee development positions CalPERS as an attractive and progressive workplace, enhancing its overall effectiveness.
In 1932, the United States was in the grip of the Great Depression. One in four Americans were unemployed, nearly 9,000 banks had failed.
Franklin Roosevelt was elected to the first of his four terms as President of the United States, and a retirement system for state employees was established in California. It became the California Public Employees' Retirement System (CalPERS). Today it’s America’s largest public pension fund, managing over $500bn (as of July 2024).
In this conversation, Marcie explains her journey to the helm of the organisation that is CalPERS today, and its over 2 million beneficiaries.
She discusses unfunded liabilities, and the balance between strategic and tactical allocation. She continues in reviewing their approach to active v passive in equity and fixed income. She discusses allocations to private equity and private debt, to hedge funds and real estate, and why their allocations to infrastructure are likely to increase.
She reflects on the intense scrutiny of being a highly visible public entity, and how divestment is not their first response in industries like energy, even though sustainability is a key priority.
She concludes with thoughts on culture, leadership, CalPERS being more nimble, and some great advice for females in finance.