We look back at how Trump ran the United States during his 2016 presidency. In an administration defined by “building the wall”, North Korea, COVID, and an attempted insurrection. Anthony is joined by two journalists who were in the room with Trump while he was changing American politics one decision at a time.

This episode was first aired during the election campaign, as Americast profiled all the presidential and vice presidential candidates.

Look out for Part 1: Trump the Brand, which looks at his rise as a politician and celebrity.

HOST: • Anthony Zurcher, North America correspondent

GUESTS: • Meredith McGraw is a national political correspondent at Politico • Jonathan Karl is the Chief Washington Correspondent for ABC News

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This episode was made by Chris Flynn, George Dabby, Purvee Pattni, Catherine Fusillo, Claire Betzer and Rufus Gray. The technical producer was Mike Regaard. The series producer is Purvee Pattni. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham.

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