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Jonah Evans is a Christian Community Priest, and this is PART III in our three part series. We discuss the purpose and nature of evil, and how adversarial (evil) forces help us to grow and become more fully human. Illuminating the necessity of conflict, struggle and oppression for the development of human freedom, we explore the war between our lower beastly nature and that of our conscience. Conscience is what calls us to the path of goodness, compassion, love, forgiveness, empathy, patience etc. 

Deepening on the topic of living “in love towards one’s actions”(one half of Rudolf Steiner’s maxim of freedom) we dive into the nature of sickness and healing, and the kind of freedom available to use in bearing pain that isn’t meant to be fixed or transformed. During the last half of the conversation, Jonah and I grapple with our human impulse to want to “change the world for the better.” 

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// Chapters // 00:00 Recap: 3 Kinds of Pain, 3 Kinds of Freedom & Steiner's Maxim

03:33 The Role of Evil in Human Experience

06:12 Understanding Evil & The Adversarial Forces

18:27 Are We the Highest Animal or Lowest Angel?

23:24 Need for Constraints to Develop Freedom

26:52 Where Are We the Most Oppressed Right Now?

29:09 Sickness, Healing & The 3 Kinds of Pain

37:22 Examples: Fix It Pain vs Transformative Pain vs Bearing Pain

47:35 The Illusion of Perfect Health and Wellbeing

57:22 Jonah's Daughter's Rare Illness Story

01:03:40 Grappling with Spiritual Concepts in Real Life

01:10:57 How to Work with Pain in Economic Realm

01:18:34 The Real Goal & Mission for Humanity

01:27:24 Finding the Right Aim Amidst Life's Constraints

01:35:25 Meeting Constraints and Adversity as Opportunities for Growth

01:43:54 Each Person's Unique Calling, Longing & Ideal

01:48:09 Closing: Embracing Love, Joy and Vitality Through Suffering

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