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Quick take: Most principals manage buildings instead of transforming lives. Dr. Chris Jones flips the script by putting teachers at the center of every decision, creating scheduling magic that serves everyone โ and proves that embracing resistance makes you stronger.
Meet Your Fellow Ruckus Maker
Chris Jones has been an educator in Massachusetts for 24 years. He is finishing his 16th year as a building administrator. He is a teacher centered Principal and passionate about continuous improvement and the idea that success is not a destination, but a process. Chris is the President of the Massachusetts State Administrators Association (MSAA) and was the Massachusetts School Counselors Association (MASCA) 2022 State Administrator of the Year. Chris is active on social media, vlogs about continuous improvement on a weekly basis, and hosts his own podcast called SEEing to Lead as a way to amplify teacher's voices in an effort to improve education as a whole promoting his "just cause": improving the educational experience for as many people as possible by being purposeful, acting with integrity, and building character.
Breaking Down the Old Rules ๐จ
In this episode, Dr. Chris Jones challenges traditional education paradigms:
Key Insight #1: Schedules Should Serve People, Not Systems
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What's broken: Cookie-cutter schedules that ignore what teachers and students actually need
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The shift: Build schedules from scratch based on your values and vision โ give teachers two preps, create rotating blocks that feel fresh, and add "WIN" time for individualized support
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Impact: Teachers report feeling more connected, less burned out, and students are more engaged because the day feels "slower" and more purposeful
Key Insight #2: Resistance Is Your Design Partner
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What's broken: Seeing pushback as something to overcome or defeat
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The shift: Practice "kintsugi leadership" โ break the old system completely, then rebuild it stronger using resistance as beautiful constraints that guide better solutions
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Impact: Dr. Jones' assistant principal solved complex scheduling problems in one day by "breaking it" first, and senior tardiness plummeted when they redesigned privileges around what students actually valued
Key Insight #3: Schools Prepare Kids for the Past, Not the Future
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What's broken: Standardized practices that keep the past alive in the present for a future that no longer exists
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The shift: Individualize learning experiences, eliminate meaningless assessments like midterms/finals, and focus on what students need to be amazing
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Impact: Schools become places where learning matters more than grades, and students develop skills for jobs that don't even exist yet
Quotable Ruckus
"You can't just throw something at people and say, okay, what do you think? You have to help them along and guide them as to what part of what you think, what they think you want to hear about so that you can make adjustments to it." โ Dr. Chris Jones
Your Do School Different Challenge
Ready to implement these ideas? Start here:
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Tomorrow: Ask your teachers one question: "What do you need to be amazing?" Then actually listen and take notes
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This Month: Identify one "sacred cow" practice (like midterms) that doesn't serve learning and plan to eliminate it
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This Semester: Practice kintsugi leadership on your biggest scheduling or systems challenge โ break it completely and rebuild from your values
Connect & Continue
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