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Gwern Branwen - How an Anonymous Researcher Predicted AI's Trajectory

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Nov 13, 2024

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Gwern Branwen

Gwern Branwen is a pseudonymous researcher celebrated for his insightful analyses of AI and its future. In this discussion, he delves into the importance of anonymity in protecting biases and encourages a hybrid workplace model integrating AI and human creativity. He reflects on the evolution of intelligence, highlights the joy of intellectual curiosity through varied personal experiences, and shares his strategies for maintaining a minimal income while sustaining creative passions. The conversation also touches on the need for high-quality training data in AI development.

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ADVICE

Focus on Enjoyable Projects

Focus on projects you enjoy, regardless of AI's potential involvement.
Write down proposals for larger projects, letting future AGI handle implementation.

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INSIGHT

The Power of Writing

Writing influences the development of LLMs, shaping their values and knowledge.
It also creates a form of digital immortality, preserving your persona in latent space.

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INSIGHT

Human vs. AI Intelligence

The relationship between human and neural network intelligence remains complex and unclear.
Gwern Branwen oscillates between viewing humans as superior, networks as superior, or both as distinct.

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The Evolution of AI and the Concept of Intelligence

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Uncovering the Past and Future Insights into Intelligence

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The Joy of Intellectual Curiosity

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Overcoming Bottlenecks in AI Development and Reflecting on the Joy of Libraries

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Literary Journeys: Borges and Beyond

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Living on a Minimal Income: A Unique Perspective

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Gwern is a pseudonymous researcher and writer. He was one of the first people to see LLM scaling coming. If you've read his blog, you know he's one of the most interesting polymathic thinkers alive.

In order to protect Gwern's anonymity, I proposed interviewing him in person, and having my friend Chris Painter voice over his words after. This amused him enough that he agreed.

After the episode, I convinced Gwern to create a donation page where people can help sustain what he's up to. Please go here to contribute.

Read the full transcript here.

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Timestamps

00:00:00 - Anonymity

00:01:09 - Automating Steve Jobs

00:04:38 - Isaac Newton's theory of progress

00:06:36 - Grand theory of intelligence

00:10:39 - Seeing scaling early

00:21:04 - AGI Timelines

00:22:54 - What to do in remaining 3 years until AGI

00:26:29 - Influencing the shoggoth with writing

00:30:50 - Human vs artificial intelligence

00:33:52 - Rabbit holes

00:38:48 - Hearing impairment

00:43:00 - Wikipedia editing

00:47:43 - Gwern.net

00:50:20 - Counterfactual careers

00:54:30 - Borges & literature

01:01:32 - Gwern's intelligence and process

01:11:03 - A day in the life of Gwern

01:19:16 - Gwern's finances

01:25:05 - The diversity of AI minds

01:27:24 - GLP drugs and obesity

01:31:08 - Drug experimentation

01:33:40 - Parasocial relationships

01:35:23 - Open rabbit holes

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