Andrew Sullivan, one of America's best known political observers and writers, reflects on his mistakes about Donald Trump, including concerns about authoritarianism. They discuss the implications of Trump's actions on the erosion of the rule of law and checks and balances in the United States. The speaker also explores Trump's policies on immigration, DEI, foreign policy, and border control, and their potential impacts. They emphasize the importance of fair-minded criticism and changing one's opinion in sustaining a pluralistic democracy.
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Quick takeaways
Trump did not carry out the terrifying authoritarian actions feared by Andrew Sullivan, such as rounding up immigrants or implementing martial law.
Criticism of Trump is not the result of Trump Derangement Syndrome, but rather a response to his own statements and actions that challenged the constitutional order and the rule of law.
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Assessing Trump's Promises
In looking back at his 2016 worries about a potential President Trump, Andrew Sullivan acknowledges that some of his worst fears did not come true. Specifically, Trump did not round up and deport unauthorized immigrants, ban all Muslim immigrants, threaten opponents with violence, or legalize torture to the extent Sullivan had worried. While Trump did exceed his authority in some cases and violate a Supreme Court order, he did not carry out the terrifying authoritarian actions that were anticipated.
Trump's Approach to Power
Sullivan suggests that Trump's actions as president reveal that he is not truly interested in controlling or dictating the lives of others. Instead, his primary concern is his own ego and personal glory. This is evident in his failure to follow through on extreme promises and actions, such as rounding up immigrants or implementing martial law. While Trump has displayed a dangerous disregard for the rule of law, he ultimately did not exhibit the level of authoritarianism that many feared.
Assessing Trump Derangement Syndrome
Sullivan rejects the idea of Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS), arguing that former President Trump himself is deranged. Trump consistently exhibited disregard for the law and norms, including attempts to obstruct justice and refusal to accept election results. Sullivan emphasizes that criticism of Trump is not the result of TDS, but rather a response to his own statements and actions that challenged the constitutional order and the rule of law.
The Risks of a Second Trump Term
While Sullivan acknowledges that there may be policy areas where he aligns more with Trump, such as immigration and opposition to extremism in the name of equity, he emphasizes the greater importance of constitutional values and the rule of law. He warns that a second term for Trump, with his lack of respect for the Constitution and the potential for further erosion of democratic norms, poses a significant risk to the United States. Sullivan urges voters to consider the fundamental principles at stake beyond policy preferences.
For this week’s Honestly, we’re sharing a favorite episode from a favorite podcast, one you may not have heard of: UnHerd with Freddie Sayers.
UnHerd’s mission is similar to ours: to push back against the herd mentality, and to provide a platform for otherwise unheard ideas, people, and places.
On this episode, host Freddie Sayers talks to Andrew Sullivan, one of America's best known political observers and writers, about something very few public intellectuals are willing to talk about: what he got wrong about Trump.