In this insightful discussion, Andrew Sullivan, a renowned political commentator and former columnist for New York Magazine, reflects on his past misjudgments about Trump. Joined by Freddie Sayers of UnHerd, they dissect Sullivan's fears about authoritarianism and the erosion of constitutional norms. They also explore the implications of a potential second Trump term, discussing threats to democracy and the challenges of civil discourse in a divided political landscape. It's a candid conversation about the evolving contours of American politics.