The Herd with Colin Cowherd Joe and Jada - Pete Rock on CL Smooth split, Nas & 'Illmatic,' 50 Cent & G.O.A.T. hip hop producers
Jan 16, 2026
Join hip-hop legend Pete Rock, known for his iconic tracks and collaborations with stars like Nas and Run-DMC. He shares insights into his split with CL Smooth and the emotional backstory of their classic 'They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.).' Hear about producing 'The World Is Yours' for Nas and his early encounter with 50 Cent. The trio also debates iconic beef records and the role of hip-hop pioneers in guiding the next generation. Plus, Pete reveals the beats he wishes he’d created and his top producer-rappers.
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Why Pete Rock And CL Smooth Split
- Pete Rock explains his split with CL Smooth came from personality clashes and jealousy despite early success together.
- He says he wishes they never broke up but the differences made repair impossible.
Avoid Jealousy As You Mature
- Pete Rock says personalities must mature and jealousy has no place among grown artists.
- He implies older artists should step back from petty conflicts and focus on craft.
The Story And Feeling Behind T.R.O.Y.
- Pete Rock plays and reflects on "They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)" and the emotion behind it.
- He recalls Trouble T‑Roy's influence and the song's timeless impact on listeners.
