It's been a long journey these past couple of years since Mike Vestil and I last met in Chiang Mai. In this episode we talk about our journeys as location independent entrepreneurs, and how we have both changed and grown over the years. Mike and I are both digital nomads still, and recorded this in Bali and Sri Lanka.  Take a listen, it's a long episode, and ends up being Mike interviewing me somehow halfway through, but either way, it was a fun chat and there's a lot of valuable takeaways.