Jonathan Martin, Politico’s politics bureau chief and senior political columnist, joins Jamie to explain why the GOP needs to lose big in order to hasten a post-Trump Republican Party.

The Agenda:

—Martin’s POLITICO piece on a Post-Trump party

—Unapologetic book plug

—Is Steve Hayes a RINO?

—If Trump loses 2024, will he run again?

—J.D. Vance as a VP candidate

—Was Joe Biden’s ousting planned months ago?

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MAGA No More? | Interview: Jonathan Martin