Parsing Immigration Policy Implications of Labeling Cartels as Terrorist Groups
Feb 27, 2025
35:02
The latest episode of the Center for Immigration Studies podcast series features guest host Senior National Security Fellow Todd Bensman in conversation with Jaeson Jones, a leading expert on Mexican cartels and a border correspondent.
This timely discussion highlights the recent designation of six Mexican drug cartels as Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTOs) by the Trump administration and the multifaceted approach by all levels of government that this permits, allowing the U.S. to combat the cartels in sync with the Mexican government.
Key topics covered include:
Evolution of Mexican Cartels: Exploration of how Mexican cartels, now in 65 countries around the world, have transitioned from organized crime syndicates to parallel governments in Mexico, exhibiting extreme violence and governmental infiltration.
Advocacy for FTO Designation: Discussion on Jones’ rationale for advocating for the FTO designation, emphasizing the need for enhanced legal frameworks to effectively combat the rapid and violent operations of cartels.
Strategic Framework Post-Designation: Analysis of the comprehensive approach required to dismantle cartel networks, underscoring the necessity for coordinated efforts across all branches of government.
Implications of FTO Status: Examination of the potential outcomes of the FTO designation, including:
Game Changer: Prediction by Jones – With the FTO designation, the number of lives we can now save is unprecedented.
In his closing commentary, Bensman highlights the recent agreement between Mexico and the United States, in which Mexico will deploy 10,000 additional troops to the border, and the United States will assist in intercepting American guns that end up in cartel hands. However, Bensman notes a lack of reliable evidence supporting the claim that most of the cartels’ firearms come from U.S. gun stores. The cartels have, for years, equipped themselves with military-grade weapons from Mexico’s own corrupt military and from the armories of corrupt officials in Central American and South American nations.
Host
Todd Bensman is a National Security Fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies.
Guest
Jaeson Jones is an expert on Mexican cartels and a border correspondent.
Related
Jaeson Jones Website
Jaeson Jones on X
American Guns Are Not to Blame for Mexico’s Cartel Problem
Intro Montage
Voices in the opening montage:
This timely discussion highlights the recent designation of six Mexican drug cartels as Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTOs) by the Trump administration and the multifaceted approach by all levels of government that this permits, allowing the U.S. to combat the cartels in sync with the Mexican government.
Key topics covered include:
Evolution of Mexican Cartels: Exploration of how Mexican cartels, now in 65 countries around the world, have transitioned from organized crime syndicates to parallel governments in Mexico, exhibiting extreme violence and governmental infiltration.
Advocacy for FTO Designation: Discussion on Jones’ rationale for advocating for the FTO designation, emphasizing the need for enhanced legal frameworks to effectively combat the rapid and violent operations of cartels.
Strategic Framework Post-Designation: Analysis of the comprehensive approach required to dismantle cartel networks, underscoring the necessity for coordinated efforts across all branches of government.
Implications of FTO Status: Examination of the potential outcomes of the FTO designation, including:
- Revocation of visas for individuals associated with designated cartels.
- Inclusion of cartel affiliates on no-fly lists.
- Enhanced capabilities to target and seize financial assets linked to cartel operations.
Game Changer: Prediction by Jones – With the FTO designation, the number of lives we can now save is unprecedented.
In his closing commentary, Bensman highlights the recent agreement between Mexico and the United States, in which Mexico will deploy 10,000 additional troops to the border, and the United States will assist in intercepting American guns that end up in cartel hands. However, Bensman notes a lack of reliable evidence supporting the claim that most of the cartels’ firearms come from U.S. gun stores. The cartels have, for years, equipped themselves with military-grade weapons from Mexico’s own corrupt military and from the armories of corrupt officials in Central American and South American nations.
Host
Todd Bensman is a National Security Fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies.
Guest
Jaeson Jones is an expert on Mexican cartels and a border correspondent.
Related
Jaeson Jones Website
Jaeson Jones on X
American Guns Are Not to Blame for Mexico’s Cartel Problem
Intro Montage
Voices in the opening montage:
- Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.
- Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.
- President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.
- Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.
- Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.
- Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.
- Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.
- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.
- Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.
- Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.
- Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".