Mary is one of my favorite writers, but I've learned the most from her in matters of feminism, sexuality, and motherhood.

We chat about Mary's concept of reactionary feminism - she almost had me applying for my membership card - about LARP-ing and our fractured, multipolar reality; about porn & censorship and the fact that it's high time to reckon with ubiquitous and often abusive forms; about not being sex-positive, and about the ravages of hyper-liberalism.

Mary writes primarily for Unherd, and her Twitter feed is an excellent place to find her latest projects @moveincircles.

Music: Discovery by Scott Buckley https://soundcloud.com/scottbuckley
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