
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast Beginning the Year With Ancestral Wisdom
Jan 1, 2026
Mindahi Bastida, an Otomí-Toltec leader from Mexico, and Atawévi Akôyi Oussou Lio, Prince of the Tolinou people of Benin, share powerful insights on ancestral wisdom and Indigenous stewardship. They discuss the critical role of Indigenous voices at COP30, advocating for governance with free consent. Atawévi introduces the concept of 'ancestral intelligence' to complement modern education, emphasizing the importance of reconnecting with nature. They highlight the need for intergenerational responsibility in addressing ecological crises, urging a cultural and spiritual shift in 2026.
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Feeling Rootless In An Aggregate Culture
- Paul Dickinson described feeling anonymous and disconnected from roots growing up in an 'aggregate culture.'
- He contrasted that with Indigenous elders' message: 'we are still here', reminding him of belonging.
Everything Exists In Relationship
- Indigenous worldviews see every being as relational and interdependent, not separate individuals.
- This relational perspective reframes humans as part of nature rather than its masters.
Use COP To Be Seen And Heard
- Attend forums like COP to make Indigenous presence visible and influence decision-making.
- Use these gatherings to connect with ministers and leaders and remind them to consider Indigenous peoples.



