Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page chat about all things on and off the telly.

Nat and Jo have a much needed catch up about The Traitors final, what did they think of the seer? Plus they chat about: Severance on Apple TV+, a series directed by Ben Stiller that's got lots of buzz at the moment; a new drama with James Norton called Playing Nice on ITVX; and Gladiaaaaaators is back on BBC One and iPlayer, what do Nat and Jo think of the two new gladiators?

What they can’t stop watching, what they definitely aren’t going to bother with, new releases and comforting classics – TV is timeless and no telly is out of bounds. As well as having a natter about what’s on TV, they share backstage goss from the world of telly, whilst also cracking up about the more humbling moments in their lives. Self-confessed TV addicts and stars of two of the biggest shows on our screens, EastEnders and Gavin and Stacey, Natalie and Joanna are the perfect companions to see what’s occurring on and off the telly.

Timecodes for shows discussed today are:

1:47 - The Traitors (BBC) 15:53 - Playing Nice (ITVX) 20:44 - Severance (Apple TV+) 28:42 - Gladiators (BBC) Get in touch by sending us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to 03306 784704.

Hosts: Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page Producer: Georgia Keating Executive Producer: Richard Morris Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts Production Co-ordinator: Becky Carewe-Jeffries Sounds Editor: Arlie Adlington Music by MCasso

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