

Trump’s Ugly Scheme to Exploit RFK Jr.: Wolff
Sep 1, 2025
Michael Wolff, an author and journalist renowned for his insightful takes on Donald Trump's presidency, joins in to reveal the bizarre partnership between Trump and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. They dissect how RFK Jr., with his controversial history, was thrust into a pivotal role affecting national public health. Wolff paints a vivid picture of RFK Jr.'s tumultuous past and his ambitions, while they unravel the implications of anti-vaccine sentiments within Trump's strategy. The discussion uncovers the precarious balance of power and the political absurdities that ensue.
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RFK Jr.'s Political Rise And Danger
- Michael Wolff argues RFK Jr. has become one of the most significant and dangerous powers in the country due to his anti-vax influence.
- Trump tolerates him to retain MAGA base support despite public-health risks.
Kennedy's Third-Party Impact
- Wolff says RFK Jr.'s independent 2024 run drew voters from both parties and left him effectively with Republican support after Democrats consolidated.
- Republicans then moved to neutralize him by offering roles that co-opt his influence.
Anti‑Vax Became A MAGA Identity
- Wolff explains Trump is politically exposed on vaccines despite Operation Warp Speed and uses RFK Jr. as a shield for MAGA voters.
- The anti-vax stance became a core MAGA identity tied to distrust of expertise.