The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast 213. Don't Climate Panic - An Investigation into The Proposed Solutions to Climate Change
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Dec 30, 2021 
In this enlightening discussion, environmentalist Michael Shellenberger, known for his critiques of apocalyptic environmentalism, dives deep into the climate change narrative. He emphasizes a balanced view, suggesting that while climate change is real, it's not the impending doom often portrayed. The conversation explores the relationship between poverty reduction and environmental sustainability, the mental health impacts of climate anxiety, and the need for practical, innovative solutions over fear-based ideologies.
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Poverty and Environment
- Making poor people richer improves the environment, as they can afford cleaner fuels and prioritize long-term environmental concerns.
- Economic growth and environmentalism are not a zero-sum game; enriching the poor benefits both.
Hurricane Haiyan Example
- Bjorn Lomborg recounts Hurricane Haiyan's impact on the Philippines, noting that a richer city fared better than a poorer one decades prior.
- This highlights how poverty increases vulnerability to climate disasters, while wealth offers better protection.
Prosperity Paradox
- While prosperity solves most environmental problems, it increases CO2 emissions due to higher consumption.
- This necessitates a discussion about mitigating CO2 emissions alongside poverty reduction.
