Political Gabfest

Trump versus Colorado

Dec 21, 2023

Guest Amanda Ripley, author of survival guide for 2024, discusses suggestions to survive the future. Topics include blocking Trump from ballot, Texas law to arrest immigrants, and dangers of cognitive distortions.

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Amanda Ripley

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Quick takeaways

The Colorado Supreme Court ruled that Trump's attempt to overturn the 2020 election qualifies as engaging in insurrection, potentially setting a precedent for disqualifying him from serving as an officer of the United States based on the 14th Amendment.

The decision to block Trump from the ballot in Colorado is seen as a victory by some, but there are concerns it could fuel his narrative of a rigged system and generate sympathy among his supporters, highlighting the complexities of resolving political conflicts through the legal system.

Texas is implementing controversial enforcement measures at the border, including barbed wire fences, and there are calls for Democrats to compromise with Republicans on border policies to address the ongoing issue.

Deep dives

Colorado Supreme Court decision on Trump's eligibility for presidential ballot

The Colorado Supreme Court, by a vote of four to three, ruled that former President Trump is ineligible to appear on the presidential primary ballot in that state, concluding that Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, which banned people who engage in insurrection from serving as officers of the United States, applies to Trump.

Introduction

5min

Implications of Preventing Trump from Running

16min

Texas Governor Signs Law to Arrest Migrants

6min

Collision of Federal and State Law in Texas Immigration Control

6min

Immigration Policy in Texas

7min

The Danger of Cognitive Distortions

25min

Holiday Plans and Slate Plus Conversation

5min

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the Colorado Supreme Court’s decision to block Donald Trump from the ballot, the new Texas law to allow state and local authorities to arrest immigrants, and guest Amanda Ripley’s suggestions to survive 2024.

Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:

Colorado Supreme Court’s opinion in Anderson, et al. v. Griswold, et al.

Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States

John Dickerson for CBS News Prime Time: John Dickerson on Trump, Colorado and the 14th Amendment

Adam Unikowsky for Adam’s Legal Newsletter: Is the Supreme Court seriously going to disqualify Trump?

Mark A. Graber in The New York Times: Donald Trump and the Jefferson Davis Problem

Lawfare: Tracking Section 3 Trump Disqualification Challenges

Karoun Demirjian for The New York Times: Congress Abandons Ukraine Aid Until Next Year as Border Talks Continue

Ashley Wu for The New York Times: Why Illegal Border Crossings Are at Sustained Highs

Elizabeth Findell for The Wall Street Journal: Texas Spent Billions on Border Security. It’s Not Working

Tom Cohen and Bill Mears for CNN: Supreme Court mostly rejects Arizona immigration law; gov says ‘heart’ remains

Edgar Sandoval for The New York Times: Appellate Court Says U.S. Can’t Cut Through Texas Border Wire Along Rio Grande