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Open Source Startup Podcast

E148: Software Refactoring in the Age of AI

Sep 3, 2024
Jonathan Schneider, Co-Founder & CEO of Moderne, dives into the intricate world of software refactoring. He highlights the critical need for maintenance to avoid security vulnerabilities and discusses the hurdles faced in the Java ecosystem. The conversation uncovers the challenge of managing code complexity, especially with the rise of generative AI. Jonathan also shares insights from Moderne's journey, including the importance of collaboration in the open-source community and the startup's evolution since 2020.
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Quick takeaways

  • Automating software refactoring through open-source tools like Open Rewrite addresses security vulnerabilities and simplifies code migration for developers.
  • Founders must effectively navigate conflicting advice and establish strong HR practices to align product development with user needs and enhance employee retention.

Deep dives

Origins of Automation in Software Refactoring

The idea for automating software refactoring emerged from experiences working on engineering tools at Netflix, where a culture of freedom and responsibility created challenges in maintaining up-to-date software. Developers frequently expressed a desire for someone to handle the migration process for them, emphasizing the need for automated solutions. This led to the creation of an open-source project called Open Rewrite, designed to simplify the migration of codebases to more modern versions and frameworks. The initial concepts focused on common tasks such as replacing logging libraries and addressing security vulnerabilities within Java microservices.

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