Earlier in the week a" cyber surveillance company based in Israel developed a tool to break into Apple iPhones with a never-before-seen technique that has been in use since February, internet security watchdog group Citizen Lab said on Monday". That was the headline in the Independent earlier in the week. What does this mean for anyone who has an iPhone and more importantly what does this mean for he cyber surveillance industry? Gavin McLoughlin spoke to Paul Conaty - Head of Consulting at CWSI Taking Stock with on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts and Spotify.      Download, listen and subscribe on the Newstalk App.     You can also listen to Newstalk live on newstalk.com or on Alexa, by adding the Newstalk skill and asking: 'Alexa, play Newstalk'.