Adopting Zero Trust: Cybersecurity Innovation with Stanford Fellow AJ Grotto
Apr 13, 2023
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AJ Grotto, cybersecurity expert and Stanford Fellow, discusses the lack of innovation in government cybersecurity and the challenges of scaling innovations. The speakers also explore cybersecurity regulations, the impact of budgets on cybersecurity innovation, and suggest solutions like dedicated budgets and revolving capital funds.
Government cybersecurity faces challenges in implementing innovation due to regulatory requirements and bureaucratic hurdles.
Cultural differences in IT environments influence the speed and ease of implementing zero trust and other cybersecurity measures.
Deep dives
The Challenges of Implementing Innovation in Government Cybersecurity
In this podcast episode, the hosts discuss the challenges of implementing innovation in government cybersecurity. They highlight the slower pace of innovation in the government sector, which can often be attributed to difficulties in scaling new ideas across the entire federal enterprise. One major obstacle to innovation is inertia, driven by the layers of legal and regulatory requirements that govern IT procurement, management, and funding in the government. These requirements create complex decision-making processes and bureaucratic hurdles, slowing down the adoption of new technologies and approaches to cybersecurity.
The Cultural Differences in IT Environments: Gaming Studios vs Banks
The podcast explores the cultural differences in IT environments between gaming studios and banks. Gaming studios focus on creativity and eliminating friction to facilitate the work of their creative employees. Security is a concern, but it needs to be balanced with the need for creativity and intuitive gameplay. On the other hand, banks, especially in the highly regulated financial services sector, adhere to stringent compliance requirements, making them more conservative when it comes to adopting new technology. The differences in management culture and regulatory environments influence the speed and ease of implementing zero trust and other cybersecurity measures.
The Role of Government Regulations and Audits in the Zero Trust Journey
The podcast delves into the role of government regulations and auditors in the zero trust journey. As zero trust becomes more widely adopted, the demand for third-party certifications and audits is increasing. Audits can help resolve the information asymmetry problem, providing buyers with assurance that companies are adhering to zero trust principles. However, the podcast also addresses the risk of audits being compromised or superficial, as auditors may have conflicts of interest or incentives to be lenient. Transparency, objectivity, and stringent accreditation processes are necessary to ensure the credibility and effectiveness of certifications and audits.
The Need for Budget Reforms to Foster Cybersecurity Innovation
The episode discusses the need for budget reforms to foster cybersecurity innovation in the government sector. The currently complex and limited budgeting process for IT hampers the execution of cybersecurity strategies. The discussion highlights the idea of a revolving capital fund that would enable borrowing and payback to support long-term IT modernization. Such reforms would allow the government to make strategic and impactful investments in cybersecurity, reducing the burden of maintaining legacy IT systems. By streamlining the budgeting process, the government could overcome obstacles and fund innovative cybersecurity initiatives more effectively.
For more than a decade, Zero Trust as a concept has moved from a philosophy and now into a practical architecture and strategy that organizations can adopt. While Zero Trust encapsulates much of what has gone well in cybersecurity for the past 30 years or so, does it truly offer an innovative approach or just iterative change? Is the concept positioned well so others can adapt it to their needs and prevent greater cyber-related risks? While we know it’s certainly not a silver bullet, and use cases are still reasonably immature, there is a firm argument for it helping to drive cybersecurity innovation forward.
This week on AZT, Neal and I chat with Andrew “AJ” Grotto, current Stanford University Fellow and Director of Security at Turtle Rock Studios (makers of Back 4 Blood and other popular video games). Prior to his current roles, AJ was an advisor at NIST and was the Senior Director for Cybersecurity Policy for The White House National Security Council. As a practitioner and academic who danced the line between public and private sectors, AJ is well suited to help us navigate the question of what drives innovation around cybersecurity if the federal government is behind the curve or creates chain reactions, and where policy comes into play.
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