
Mythic Mind 114 - Till We Have Faces, Part One
Oct 13, 2025
Delve into the depths of C.S. Lewis's novel as the discussion unfolds around Orual's journey as an unreliable narrator, grappling with her true self. Explore the duality of the goddess Ungit, embodying both destruction and beauty, and the misordering of love reflected in Lewis's Four Loves. The conversation also touches on themes of sacrifice, the relationship of the masculine and feminine, and Psyche's transformative beauty that beckons towards deeper truths. Contrasts between Stoicism and religious sensibility provide a rich tapestry of thought.
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Isolation As Self-Inflicted Loss
- C.S. Lewis frames Orual's isolation as self-chosen: she refuses to give herself away and thus loses herself.
- Without receiving agape (charitable) love, natural loves become perverted and demonic in form.
Ungit: Devourer And Giver
- Ungit embodies both devouring and life-giving facets of the feminine; Orual perceives only the devouring side.
- Lewis uses Ungit to show how the same influence can either consume or produce life depending on relation to it.
Consuming Love Makes The Self
- The paradox of consuming-love recurs: true giving (sacrifice) consumes yet restores and makes real.
- Lewis links Eucharistic imagery to myth: being consumed can be the path to becoming more oneself.
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Intro
00:00 • 2min
Approach to Lewis's Till We Have Faces
01:49 • 2min
Orual as Unreliable Narrator
03:57 • 58sec
Orual's Lack of Self and the Veil
04:54 • 5min
Ungit: The Devouring and Life-Giving Feminine
10:00 • 3min
Fox's Story of Aphrodite and Nkissis
13:17 • 4min
Ordered Love and Lewis's Four Loves
17:43 • 2min
King, Barrenness, and Misrelation to Venus
20:07 • 4min
Sacrifice, Wedding, and Christian Overtones
23:54 • 3min
Masculine Submission and New Life
26:32 • 2min
Holy Places Are Dark Places
28:39 • 3min
Psyche's View: The City and the Soil
31:18 • 5min
Ungit's Egg and Feminine Receptivity
36:20 • 3min
Arnhem's Hellenized Cult and Domestication
38:55 • 1min
The Fox: Stoic Reason and Hidden Poetry
39:57 • 5min
Fox's Stoicism Quoted Through Psyche
44:44 • 3min
Psyche's Beauty and Transforming Presence
48:00 • 4min
Psyche's Longing for the Mountain
51:53 • 9min
Psyche Meets the Thing Itself
01:00:46 • 2min
Orual's Madness, Veil, and Defensive Isolation
01:02:21 • 6min
Orual's Encounter with the Istra Priest
01:07:59 • 2min
Orual Sees the Palace While Kneeling
01:09:37 • 4min
The God of the Mountain: Beauty More Than Monster
01:13:44 • 4min
Beauty's Power to Wound and Transform
01:18:08 • 3min
Outro
01:20:47 • 2min
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A Man Born Blind


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The consolation of philosophy

Boethius
Boethius's 'Consolation of Philosophy' is a philosophical treatise written while he awaited execution.
The work explores themes of fortune, adversity, and the nature of good and evil.
Through a dialogue between Boethius and Lady Philosophy, the text examines the relationship between God and the world, grappling with questions of divine providence and human suffering.
It offers a blend of philosophical and theological perspectives, providing solace and insight into the challenges of life.
The book remains a significant work in the history of philosophy and theology.

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The princess and the goblin


George MacDonald
Published in 1872, this novel is one of the first in the modern fantasy genre.
It tells the story of Princess Irene, who lives a lonely life in a castle with her nursemaid, and Curdie, a young miner.
Irene discovers a magical world through her great-great-grandmother, who is invisible to others.
Together, Irene and Curdie thwart the goblins' plans to abduct the princess and flood the mines.
The story emphasizes themes of faith, bravery, and the importance of believing in what is invisible.
The novel is known for its imaginative and innovative ideas, beautiful descriptions, and its influence on later fantasy writers.

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• Mentioned in 43 episodes
That Hideous Strength

C. S. Lewis
Published in 1945, 'That Hideous Strength' is the final book in C.S.
Lewis's Space Trilogy.
The story takes place on Earth and follows the character Mark Studdock, a young sociology faculty member at Bracton College, as he becomes entangled with the National Institute of Co-ordinated Experiments (N.
I. C. E. ), a sinister organization with totalitarian ambitions.
The novel delves into themes of faith, doubt, and the struggle between good and evil, featuring characters from the previous books in the trilogy, including Elwin Ransom.
It critiques the dangers of logical positivism and the erosion of moral values, drawing parallels with other dystopian works like George Orwell's '1984'.

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On The Incarnation


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Written by St. Athanasius in the 4th century, 'On the Incarnation' is an apologetic treatise that defends the incarnation of Christ against non-believers.
Athanasius explains that the Word of God became incarnate to save fallen humanity, arguing that this act was necessary to undo the corruption of sin and restore humanity to its original state in the image of God. The book relies heavily on Scripture and the teachings of the early Church, addressing various objections to the incarnation and emphasizing the divine and human natures of Christ.

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• Mentioned in 23 episodes
Out of the Silent Planet


C.S. Lewis
In 'Out of the Silent Planet', Dr. Elwin Ransom, a philologist, is kidnapped by his old school acquaintance Dick Devine and the scientist Edward Weston.
They take him aboard a spaceship bound for Malacandra (Mars).
Upon landing, Ransom escapes and encounters the planet's inhabitants, including the humanoid hrossa and the angelic eldil.
He learns that Earth is isolated from the rest of the solar system and eventually meets Oyarsa, the ruler of Malacandra.
After a series of adventures and interactions with the planet's diverse species, Ransom is directed to return to Earth along with his captors, who are ordered to leave Malacandra immediately.
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The Phaedo

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The Four Loves


C.S. Lewis
In 'The Four Loves', C.S.
Lewis examines the nature of love from a Christian and philosophical perspective.
He categorizes love into four types based on ancient Greek words: *storge* (affection), *philia* (friendship), *eros* (romantic love), and *agape* (the love of God).
Lewis discusses the characteristics, strengths, and potential pitfalls of each type of love, emphasizing the importance of understanding and balancing these loves to avoid corruption and to draw closer to God. He also explores the distinction between 'need-love' and 'gift-love' and how these concepts relate to human experiences and divine love.

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Mere Christianity


C.S. Lewis
In 'Mere Christianity', C.S.
Lewis argues for the existence of God and defends Christian theology.
The book is divided into four parts: the first argues for the existence of God based on the 'law of human nature'; the second defends Christian theology, including the 'Liar, lunatic, or Lord' trilemma regarding Jesus Christ; the third explores Christian ethics, including the cardinal and theological virtues; and the fourth discusses the Christian conception of God, particularly the Holy Trinity.
Lewis also addresses topics such as free will, morality, sexual ethics, and the institution of marriage.
The book is known for its clear and logical presentation of Christian apologetics and has been praised for its straightforward and humorous writing style.

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Meditations


Marcus Aurelius
Meditations is a series of private writings composed by Marcus Aurelius, one of Rome's greatest emperors, as he struggled to understand himself and make sense of the universe.
Written between 170 and 180 CE while on military campaigns, this work combines Stoic philosophy with personal observations on leadership, duty, mortality, and human nature.
Through twelve books of intimate thoughts never intended for publication, Marcus Aurelius explores themes of self-improvement, resilience in the face of adversity, and living virtuously while accepting what cannot be changed.

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Till We Have Faces


C.S. Lewis
This novel is a retelling of the ancient myth of Cupid and Psyche, narrated by Orual, the ugly and bitter older sister of the beautiful Psyche.
Orual's story is a complex exploration of envy, betrayal, loss, and the journey towards self-awareness and redemption.
The book delves into Orual's life as she grapples with her love for Psyche, her anger towards the gods, and her eventual realization of her own flaws and the true nature of her feelings.
The narrative is divided into two parts, reflecting Orual's transformation from a state of bitterness and self-deception to one of understanding and mercy.

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• Mentioned in 66 episodes
The Great Divorce


C.S. Lewis
In 'The Great Divorce', C.S.
Lewis presents an allegorical narrative where souls from a gray, dreary town (representing hell) are given the opportunity to visit heaven.
The story follows the narrator and various ghosts as they encounter spirits in heaven, engaging in dialogues that reveal the nature of their choices and the reasons they remain in hell.
The book emphasizes that hell is a self-imposed state, and individuals choose to remain there due to their inability to let go of their earthly attachments and sins.
Through these encounters, Lewis explores themes of redemption, the afterlife, and the importance of spiritual choices, underscoring that true joy and salvation are available to those who seek them sincerely.

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Surprised by Joy


C.S. Lewis
We are continuing through the Fiction and Philosophy of C.S. Lewis course with Part One of Lewis's best novel, Till We Have Faces.
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