Zero to One with Danny Goler Zero to One with Danny Goler #1 - David Rug: Project Liminality, InterBrain, & the Physics of Communication
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Aug 13, 2025 David Rug, a metaphysician and civilizational theorist, dives into fascinating concepts like Project Liminality and the InterBrain. He explores the 'physics of communication' and how narrative design can bridge divides and promote unity. The discussion touches on systems thinking, the balance between freedom and order, and the contrasts of classical versus quantum mind metaphors. Rug emphasizes using open-source collaboration to guide humanity toward healthier networks, challenging listeners to consider their roles in a fragmented world.
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Childhood Fragmentation Shaped Liminal Mind
- David Rug grew up with his parents' divorce and subsequent political polarization landing in his family as a personal fracture point.
- That early fragmentation sensitized him to holding conflicting perspectives and birthed his liminal mindset.
Cylinder Metaphor For Resolving Conflict
- Rug discovered GameB and dialectical thinking during university, which reframed conflicts as complementary perspectives.
- He used the cylinder metaphor: different views (circle, square) are slices of a larger integrated reality.
Two Pathological Attractors Explained
- Rug frames civilization's split as oscillation between two pathological attractors: freedom (chaos) and order (oppression).
- Extreme versions of either become the opposite problem; integration requires a 'third attractor'.
