In this episode, Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz discuss the Daniel Penny self-defense case and its implications on public opinion regarding crime and governance in New York City. They also delve into a recent murder incident involving the United Healthcare CEO, the reactions to violence in political discourse, and a cultural vibe shift exemplified by Lana Del Rey's unexpected marriage. The conversation highlights the changing landscape of public sentiment, particularly regarding political figures like Donald Trump and the normalization of differing viewpoints in the entertainment industry. Normally is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Tuesday & Thursday.

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