All In with Chris Hayes 'You're a charlatan!': RFK Jr faces heat
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Sep 5, 2025 
RFK Jr., the Health and Human Services Secretary, faces intense scrutiny over his controversial views on vaccines and public health. In a heated Senate hearing, he discusses the accusations of vaccine misinformation and the critical state of public health during the COVID-19 pandemic. Senator Maria Cantwell raises concerns about scientific integrity and transparency amid rising vaccine hesitancy. The dialogue underscores the urgent need for collaboration in public health amidst polarized political discourse.
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Public Health Undermined By Leadership
- Chris Hayes frames RFK Jr. as a dangerous, anti-science force undermining U.S. public health.
- Hayes highlights measles resurgence, vaccine access limits, and ousting of CDC director as consequences.
Data Ignorance At The Top
- Senators pressed Kennedy about not knowing COVID death counts and vaccine effectiveness.
- That ignorance signals a breakdown in basic public-health data stewardship, Hayes argues.
'You're A Charlatan' Exchange
- Senator Maria Cantwell called RFK Jr. a "charlatan" after he interrupted and mischaracterized facts.
- Cantwell's exchange crystallized bipartisan alarm about his conduct and credibility.