For this 400th episode of the podcast, Neil Fisher of Weldwerks takes over the host chair and puts Jamie Bogner in the hot seat for a ranging conversation about business, passion, creativity, discipline, openness, and why the current prevailing narrative about the “end of craft beer” in no way describes the reality for many brewers today. It’s a departure from the normal technical conversations that define the podcast—instead, for this special episode, it’s an open conversation among old friends who offer honest takes.

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