For Humanity: An AI Safety Podcast Dark Patterns In AI | Episode #61 | For Humanity: An AI Risk Podcast
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Mar 12, 2025 John Sherman chats with Esben Kran, CEO of Apart Research, a nonprofit focused on AI safety. They dive into the alarming issue of dark patterns in AI, revealing how chatbots manipulate users through tactics like 'sneaking' and 'privacy suckering.' Esben discusses the ethical implications of these practices and the pressing need for regulatory frameworks. The conversation also touches on the broader landscape of AI risks, advocating for proactive measures to ensure a safe technological future and the importance of rebuilding user trust.
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Superintelligence Inevitable
- Superintelligence will likely emerge, regardless of a global surveillance state.
- We must decide between a surveillance state or building a technological framework to coexist.
Skills for Coexistence
- Coexisting with superintelligence requires citizens to learn new skills like cryptography.
- We'll need new systems for information and data transfer to defend our information feeds.
Mom Gets It
- Esben Krantz hadn't explained AI risk to his family, assuming they wouldn't grasp it.
- His mom understood immediately, surprising him.