I welcomed the the Menzies brothers - Barney and Charlie - who are the creative mind behind the award winning Shiver, and the Ennie nominated Shiver Gothic. We talk about their journey into roleplaying games, the design of Shiver, as well as discussing their newest creation - Don't Play this Game. To learn more, visit: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/327195066/dont-play-this-game-a-cursed-solo-rpg https://www.dontplaythisga.me https://www.twitter.com/GamesParable
