In this conversation, Justin interviews author Bryar Kader about his book 'Cain Untold'. They discuss the research and inspiration behind the book, as well as various interpretations of the story of Cain. They explore topics such as the age of the Earth, the divine council worldview, and the mark of Cain. They also touch on Jewish mysticism and the rabbinic traditions surrounding Cain. The conversation delves into the connections between Cain and the wild man traditions, as well as the intermarriage with giant clans. Overall, the conversation provides a fascinating exploration of the biblical story of Cain and its various interpretations. The conversation explores various topics related to biblical mythology, ancient civilizations, and the supernatural. The discussion touches on the existence of supernatural beings such as satyrs, goat demons, and fallen angels. It also delves into the connections between ancient pagan gods and biblical figures. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the cultural context in which biblical stories were written and the need to interpret them metaphorically. The guests discuss the concept of time in relation to the creation story and the significance of God meeting people where they are in their understanding.

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