Author Matthew Remski discusses survivor stories of abuse in the yoga community and ways to create safer spaces through critical thinking and empowerment. The podcast explores the dark realities of the yoga world, including abuse, manipulation, and hidden agendas within spiritual figures.
Matthew Remski's book reveals abuse in Ashtanga yoga, suggesting safer community practices.
Childhood upbringing may influence compliance with societal norms in later life.
Ashtanga yoga community lacks reflection on abusive leader behaviors, requiring nuanced accountability efforts.
Deep dives
Comparison of Yoga Philosophies: Ayengar vs. Joyce
Ayengar focuses on sculpting the body into hypergeometrical perfection to become a lightning rod for spiritual enlightenment, while Joyce emphasizes stretching the body until feeling boneless to allow God's flow. Both teachers physically manipulate students into postures, resulting in pain-induced ecstasy.
Historical Context of Astanga Yoga
Ayengar and Joyce emerged from the Mysore Yoga Revival blending traditional Hatha Yoga with European and Scandinavian influences. Joyce's Astanga Yoga inspired athletic and gymnastic styles, now popular globally. Early images showed extreme contortions and physical manhandling by teachers, reinforcing pain as part of the practice.
Surviving Modern Yoga Dynamics
Matthew Remsky's book exposes abuse within the cultic structures of Astanga yoga, proposing safer community practices. The investigation revealed systematic sexual assaults by Joyce on numerous students, perpetuated under manhandling adjustments. The post-pandemic era witnesses a shift towards postmodern yoga rejecting grand promises and cult-like practices.
The Impact of Childhood Totalitarian Expectations on Compliance with Social Demands
The episode delves into the concept that children growing up in scenarios where they are constantly meeting high expectations without room for discussion or self-guided choices may develop a tendency to comply with arbitrary social demands later in life. This is exemplified by children from middle-class families who are overly scheduled with various activities, leading to implicit compliance with societal norms. The discussion extends to the relationship between childhood upbringing and alignment of behavior with external expectations, highlighting the potential impact of early experiences on later conformity to societal pressures.
Challenging Accountability in Yoga Communities amidst Allegations
The podcast explores the lack of organizational reflection within the Ashtanga yoga community regarding allegations of abusive behaviors by leaders like Joyce and Manos. It delves into the challenges of holding individuals like Manos accountable for their actions, despite ongoing accusations and investigations. The episode also discusses the nuanced approach required to navigate between recognizing the benefits of yoga practices while acknowledging the problematic origins associated with certain leaders. Moreover, it touches upon efforts within yoga communities to address survivor care and dismantle veneration toward abusive leaders for collective healing and accountability.
Matthew is in the guest seat today! Why? Because in 2019—just months before the pandemic and this podcast kicked off—he published a book titled Practice and All is Coming: Abuse, Cult Dynamics and Healing in Yoga and Beyond. It focused on survivor stories of assault and abuse within the cultic mechanisms of Pattabhi Jois' Ashtanga Yoga community. The book also proposed a path into co-creating safer yoga communities via enhanced critical thinking, self-and-other-care, student empowerment, and community resilience.
In many ways, this book holds the keys to how one-third of the team has tackled the conspirituality era. Derek and Julian interview their colleague about it all on the occasion of the release of a second edition, now titled: Surviving Modern Yoga: Cult Dynamics, Charismatic Leaders, and What Survivors Can Teach Us (North Atlantic Books).