Today we will be interacting with our dear friend and brother, Pastor Toby Sumpter, and his recent podcast titled "We're All Incrementalists". We love Pastor Toby and are incredibly grateful for him. We have some agreements and some disagreements with him on this topic, and are eager to explain why. You can watch Toby's post here... https://apologiastudios.com/episode/aftershow-480-toby-sumpter/ Come join in the Aftershow! https://apologiastudios.com/shows/apologia-aftershow/ -Get the NAD treatment Jeff is on, go to ionlayer.com and put "IONAPOLOGIA" into the coupon code and get $100 off your first three months! https://www.ionlayer.com -Check out our new partner at http://www.amtacblades.com/apologia and use code APOLOGIA in the check out for 5% off! -You can get in touch with Heritage Defense at heritagedefense.org and use coupon code “APOLOGIA” to get your first month free! -For some Presip Blend Coffee Check out our store at https://shop.apologiastudios.com/ -Check out the Ezra Institute: https://www.ezrainstitute.com/