

Episode 4695: Remembering Nagasaki 80 Years Ago Today
Aug 9, 2025
Bradley Thayer, a political scientist focused on national security, and Cleo Pascal, a geopolitical strategist specializing in the Indo-Pacific, explore the historical significance of the Nagasaki bombing. They connect the event to modern geopolitical tensions, including the war in Ukraine and military dynamics in Israel and Gaza. Their discussion covers the implications of U.S. foreign policy, the role of AI in energy demands, and the necessity of clear military objectives to avoid prolonged conflicts, all while emphasizing the human emotions driving these global issues.
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Territory Swaps Could Reward Aggression
- Proposals to swap territory risk legitimizing land taken by force.
- Such deals would displace Ukrainians and reward aggression, critics say.
Nagasaki Bombing Described
- The bomb over Nagasaki on August 9 destroyed the industrial valley and damaged Mitsubishi's works.
- The blast reduced the area to blackened rubble.
Gaza Evacuation Plan Risks Mass Displacement
- Israel's plan moves people from Gaza City south to temporary evacuation centers.
- Tom Dance warns this will displace many and likely increase civilian deaths.