Clea talks about Taylor Swift’s breakup with Joe Alywn and why the news is stressing her out so much. Joanna recaps her jury duty, which was also stressful and Clea shares when she decided just not to go to jury duty in New York City. And they take DMs about Clea’s love of Bob Dylan and the time they were on Netflix’s the Floor Is Lava.

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