The LRB Podcast

Old Pope, New Pope

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May 21, 2025
Colm Tóibín, an acclaimed Irish novelist and critic, discusses the evolving papacy and the paradox of necessary change within the Church. He reflects on Pope Francis's leadership, revealing how a smile masked his iron-fist governance. Tóibín also examines the church's interactions with politics, particularly during the Trump era, and the implications of papal reforms on communities, including the complexities of beliefs surrounding issues like gay blessings. His insights paint a vivid picture of a transformative period in Catholicism.
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INSIGHT

Francis' Strategic Vatican Control

  • Pope Francis changed from a humourless controller to a strategic figure opening small doctrinal doors. - Behind his smile, he maintained tight control over Vatican affairs, preventing chaos like a Latin Mass parish revolt.
ANECDOTE

Trump-Francis Vatican Clash

  • Donald Trump's appointment of an offensive ambassador antagonized Pope Francis. - Francis responded by appointing Cardinal McElroy, who led migrant marches against Trump before quietly ascending to Washington leadership.
INSIGHT

Faith Elevates Above Politics

  • Catholic leaders balance serious faith with political realities during public ceremonies. - They avoid direct political attacks in faith moments, emphasizing eternal life over transient power struggles.
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