Morgan Housel and Gretchen Housel Part 2: Why they never fight about money, why Morgan now only wants to fly business class, and how they’re talking to their kids about money
Mar 6, 2024
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In this podcast episode, Carl Richards interviews Morgan and Gretchen Housel about their approach to money. They discuss the importance of distinguishing between wants and necessities, how they navigate money management in their relationship, and the influence of social circles on spending habits. The couple shares insights on living below their means, viewing money as a tool, and discussing money with their children.
Distinguishing between wants and necessities can redefine expenses as investments for better outcomes.
Open communication, respect, and consensus building lead to financial harmony in relationships.
Deep dives
Beneficial Spending Habits and the Concept of Investments vs. Expenses
Morgan and Gretchen discuss their evolving approach to spending, emphasizing the importance of distinguishing between investments and expenses. Morgan shares his experience of deciding whether to fly first class for work trips and how it evolved over time, highlighting the concept that certain expenditures, such as travel upgrades, can be viewed as investments for improved performance and well-being rather than frivolous expenses.
Open Communication About Money Within Relationships
The couple reflects on their harmonious relationship regarding financial matters, expressing a lack of major disagreements or conflicts about money. They attribute this cohesion to open communication, mutual respect for each other's opinions, and the ability to reach consensus on financial decisions over time. By valuing each other's perspectives and maintaining a shared understanding of their financial goals, Morgan and Gretchen have fostered a relationship built on financial harmony.
Parenting and Teaching Children about Money
As parents, Morgan and Gretchen share their evolving strategies for discussing money with their young children, navigating the challenges posed by societal influences and social media's impact on children's perceptions of wealth and spending. They emphasize the importance of instilling financial awareness and responsible spending habits in their kids, aiming to strike a balance between providing security and allowing room for financial independence and risk-taking as they grow older.
Community Influence on Financial Decisions and Lifestyle Choices
The couple underscores the significance of surrounding oneself with like-minded individuals when it comes to financial decision-making and lifestyle choices. They discuss the impact of social circles and societal norms on spending behaviors, advocating for a conscious selection of friends and acquaintances who align with one's values and financial objectives. By prioritizing genuine connections and shared values, Morgan and Gretchen highlight the role of community in shaping financial attitudes and behaviors.
In Part 2 with Morgan and Gretchen Housel, host Carl Richards unpacks the difference between wants and necessities (ie - sometimes flying in Business class is essential in order to effectively do what you’ve been hired to do) . They also reveal that while they have disagreements about some things, money has never really been one of them. And the explore the challenges of parenting in the digital age, the dangers of social comparison, and the importance of not focusing solely on money and instead providing their children experiences together while they can.
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