In this conversation, Martijn van Tilborgh and Jason explore the complexities of faith, community, and the nature of God beyond traditional religious paradigms. They discuss personal spiritual journeys, the importance of grace, and the need for rethinking church structures to foster individual revelation and community connection.

The dialogue emphasizes the significance of listening, understanding cultural differences, and creating spaces for diverse expressions of faith, all while using tacos as a metaphor for community and connection.

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