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What Next | Is ISIS Back? Or Did It Never Leave?

Jan 6, 2025
Colin P. Clarke, Director of Research at The Soufan Group and author of "After the Caliphate," discusses the enduring impact of ISIS despite the loss of its physical territory. He highlights the role of independent radicalization, where disconnected individuals commit acts of terrorism influenced by the group's ideologies. Clarke addresses the alarming resurgence of ISIS, their advanced propaganda tactics, and the necessity for a robust collaboration between governments and tech companies to combat online terrorist threats.
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Quick takeaways

  • ISIS has adapted to a decentralized model, maintaining influence through propaganda and inspiring lone-wolf attacks despite territorial losses.
  • The need for a comprehensive U.S. counterterrorism strategy is crucial, addressing both radicalization root causes and collaboration with technology companies.

Deep dives

Understanding the New Orleans Attack

A tragic vehicle attack on New Year's Day in New Orleans highlights the ongoing threat posed by individuals inspired by ISIS. Colin Clark, a security expert, delves into the actions of the assailant, Shamsuddin Jabbar, who not only drove a truck into a crowd but also had links to ISIS, including an ISIS flag and propaganda videos. While investigators labeled the attack as the act of a lone wolf, Clark suggests the attack’s sophistication may indicate deeper connections to ISIS ideology. Jabbar's troubled personal history may have created a pathway for radicalization, demonstrating how personal crises can intersect with extremist motivations.

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