Ana Maria Ochoa talks about ethnomusicology and the connection between nature, sounds, and humans in defining what is music. Ana Maria talked about how humanity and sound are defined contextually and she described how she worked with written archives of sounds from the colonial era in Colombia and how the way we ‘record’ sound shapes our listening. Additionally, we talked about her work with Colombian indigenous film makers and the inter-disciplinary collective she convened to work on politics, environmental justice and aesthetics at Columbia University.