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Nasir Fard better known as Gillie Da Kid joins The Pivot for a conversation storying his life from being a young man in Philadelphia streets serving time in prison for armed robbery to being one of the original innovators in the podcast game and an OG in the rap game.

Most well known for his culture platform Million Dollarz Worth of Game, which he created with his cousin Wallo 267, Gillie shares how his objective was to always get out the streets and he was determined to make it. With hiccups along the way, Gillie says that going to college was one of the most transformative experiences in his life. This experience broadened his horizons and showed him that your destiny is in your hands and not in the white men, a myth that many people in the Black community believe.

Gillie becomes emotional and opens up to Fred, Ryan, and Channing about the recent loss of his son, YNG Cheese, a well-known Philadelphia rapper. He says the loss of his son has left a black hole in his heart that could never be replicated. A trying time for Gillie and his family, and he admits that revenge is on his mind. However, with the help of his amazing support systems, he’s managed to keep his purpose first and chose to remain a role model for those within the community.

Ryan acknowledges that Gillie inspires many people and he’s done an amazing job by allowing the world a front-row seat into his growth as a man. Gillie shares a candid story about a fan seeing them and becoming emotional, insisting that listening to Million Dollarz Worth of Game stopped him from taking someone else's life. Gillie says these are the moments he lives for and his favorite part of the show.

Philly native, it would be remiss if Ryan didn’t ask Gillie’s thoughts on if the Philadelphia Eagles will win the SuperBowl this year. Gillie assures Ryan that they will and they have the best defense in the league.

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Dennis Barsema, serial tech CEO; trustee of Northern Illinois University