Julian Dorey Podcast

#356 - CIA Spy on Nuclear War, Vault 7 Tech, Mossad in Iran & Death Rituals | John Kiriakou

Nov 18, 2025
John Kiriakou, a former CIA officer and expert on counterterrorism, shares thrilling insights from his intelligence career. He delves into the complexities of Middle Eastern politics, discussing surveillance tactics and the dangers of mass data collection. With a focus on Iran-Israel tensions and the geopolitics surrounding nuclear threats, Kiriakou explores the broader implications of recent conflicts. He also discusses the societal impacts of elite wealth and the ethics of privatized intelligence, making for a thought-provoking conversation.
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INSIGHT

Surveillance And Metadata Threaten Civil Liberties

  • John Kiriakou warns that mass metadata collection and private companies like Palantir create near‑total surveillance risks for Americans.
  • He notes Utah facilities storing every call, text, and email threaten civil liberties and marketize metadata.
ANECDOTE

New Analyst Quit After Facing Middle East Complexity

  • John recounts mentoring a junior analyst who quit after realizing the Middle East's nuance was too deep to master.
  • The woman left CIA analysis to become a real estate agent rather than wrestle with regional complexity.
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Iran's Strategic Patience And Drone Lessons

  • Kiriakou explains Iran practiced "strategic patience" after Israeli strikes, responding gradually instead of immediate escalation.
  • Early drone attempts mostly failed, revealing limits of defenses like Iron Dome against slow drones.
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