Would they abort Jesus? 10 Qs with Mike Winger (Ep 54)
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Jul 4, 2025
The podcast dives into the provocative question of whether society would have aborted Jesus, using scripture to argue a pro-life perspective. It explores the complex relationship between forgiveness and justice, emphasizing the need for accountability. The hosts dissect the significance of biblical translations, especially in 1 Samuel 13:1. There’s also an engaging discussion on the historical significance of high places in Israel and how unresolved past relationship issues can affect current dynamics, all wrapped in thoughtful theological insights.
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Empathy Can Change Views
A woman changed her pro-choice stance after recognizing the grief of a friend who lost a baby.
Empathy for loss reveals abortion's true tragedy beyond abstract debate.
insights INSIGHT
John as a Person in Womb
John the Baptist is recognized as a "son" with personhood while in his mother's womb at six months.
The fetus's agency and emotional response, like leaping for joy, support the pro-life biblical view on personhood.
volunteer_activism ADVICE
Forgiveness and Justice Differ
Forgiveness of sin against you doesn't negate justice or restitution owed to you.
Seek forgiveness but also pursue proper justice and restitution, especially in cases of abuse.
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Today's Timestamps: 1. 0:19 {Would They Abort Jesus?} What are four Bible verses to learn, to support the pro-live position? Would they have aborted Jesus back in history, based on current cultural reasoning we hear? 2. 21:43 {Sins Against Us or Just God?} If someone commits a sin against you (abuse, etc.), are you also owed justice? Can Jesus forgive the justice you are owed, or was the sin committed only against God and not you (the sinner is now saved)? 3. 29:54 {Choosing Between Two Churches} What would you do if you had to choose between a Calvinist leaning church and a church that believed women could be elders? Both churches are otherwise healthy and doctrinally sound. 4. 33:14 {Interpreting the “High Places”} How should we understand the "high places"? 2 Chronicles 15: 17 and other passages condemn the kings for not tearing them down, but in 1 Samuel 9: 12, Samuel attends and blesses a sacrifice at a high place. 5. 44:43 {Processing Past Relationship Issues} My wife had several partners before our marriage. I wasn’t around, but I feel like I have to forgive the men. Am I being weird? How do I bring this to God, because I'm still losing sleep 10 years later? 6. 49:02 {Different Translations = Different Meanings?} Why does 1 Samuel 13:1 have different meanings in different translations (like the NKJV and NIV)? 7. 58:25 {Is the Holy Spirit All-Knowing?} Does Matthew 24: 36 imply that the Holy Spirit doesn't know everything? How does that work if the Holy Spirit is God? I've been struggling with the Trinity lately. 8. 1:04:36 {Submitting to a Non-Christian Husband?} How should a newly Christian woman apply Ephesians 5: 22 and Colossians 3: 18 when her husband has not yet come to Christ and is not supportive of her conversion? 9. 1:10:46 {Galatians: The Meaning of “Quickly”} When the Galatians quickly deserted the Gospel (Galatians 1:6), did "quickly" refer to the time after Paul left to when they heard false teaching, or how easily they turned once they heard false teaching? 10. 1:15:19 {Historical Data: Biblical Christianity} Is there any historical data on biblical Christianity outside the Catholic Church before the Reformation?
Bonus Q! 1:21:59 What’s your favorite Star Wars film?
Gavin Ortlund's video on The Waldensians (forerunners of the reformation): Click Here
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